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    What is better about the ATI Radeons?

    Everyone I know are NVIDIA fanboys, what are the actual subjective differences between the 2 ?

    I hear ATI's cards have issues with alot of new games at first because alot of designers work with NVIDIA when making their games.

    Why is a Radeon better for Doom3 ?

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    I believe Doom 3 was built/programmed/developed on that particular Radeon

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    Originally posted by UrashimaNick:
    I believe Doom 3 was built/programmed/developed on that particular Radeon
    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's what I've heard as well.

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    OK, so what's the difference between all the different manufacturers?

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    Originally posted by Peter Hoffman:
    ATI is the actual brand, Radeon is the card type.
    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Nope ATI and nVidia simply design the chipsets companies like Gainward produce the cards using those chipsets....

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    Bump for the technically savy.

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    NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra and GeForce 6800 GT Chips Proclaimed Best for Doom 3


    Official Benchmarks Show the NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra and the GeForce 6800 GT GPUs Outperform Comparable Competitive Solutions in Blockbuster PC Gaming Title

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    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:

    SANTA CLARA, CA?JULY 26, 2004?NVIDIA Corporation (Nasdaq: NVDA), the worldwide leader in visual processing solutions, today announced that independent third-party testing confirms that the NVIDIA? GeForce? 6800 Ultra and the GeForce 6800 GT graphics processing units (GPUs) deliver faster performance than comparable competitive offerings in Doom 3?, regarded as one of the most highly-anticipated PC games in history. The testing reveals that the NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra GPU offers the best performance in the upcoming Doom 3 title, with GeForce 6800 GT running a close second, outperforming the high-end graphics chip offered from the leading competitor that costs approximately $100 more. In the testing, the NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra beat the comparable competitive offering by up to 40%. The GeForce 6800 GT performed up to 70% better than the competitor?s comparable offering?.

    ?From the simple data here we see that the GeForce 6800 Ultra and GeForce 6800 GT are in a class of their own, putting some very good distance between themselves and the competition?s flagship,? stated Kyle Bennett editor in chief for HardOCP in the article. ?If I had to make a list of high end video cards to purchase to play Doom 3, the GeForce 6800 Ultra and GeForce 6800 GT would easily take the number one and number two spots...?

    The official benchmarks were released by the creator of Doom 3, id Software?, with the help of HardOCP.com (www.hardocp.com), a leading hardware enthusiast?s Web site. The NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra and GeForce 6800 GT took the top two spots in every PCI Express test. The GeForce 6800 Ultra and GeForce 6800 GT GPUs also finished at the top of their respective categories in every AGP test, missing another sweep of the top two spots by a mere one tenth of a second.

    ?All that considered, for those of you that are in the high end video card market, the GeForce 6800 GT looks to very much be the sweet spot when it comes to playing Doom 3 with all the eye candy turned on at high resolutions. Obviously the 6800 Ultra is even faster for those of you that need the best no matter the cost,? the article states.

    The entire article can be viewed at the HardOCP Web site at http://www2.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NjQy.

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    John Carmack -


    "It should be noted that all of the modern cards play the game very well, and benchmark scores should not be the be-all-end-all decision maker. Scores will probably improve somewhat with future driver releases, and other factors like dual slots or dual power connectors can weigh against some of the high end cards.

    The benchmarking was conducted on-site, and the hardware vendors did not have access to the demo before hand, so we are confident that there is no egregious cheating going on, but it should be noted that some of the ATI cards did show a performance drop when colored mip levels were enabled, implying some fudging of the texture filtering. This has been a chronic issue for years, and almost all vendors have been guilty of it at one time or another. I hate the idea of drivers analyzing texture data and changing parameters, but it doesn't visibly impact the quality of the game unless you know exactly what to look for on a specific texture. On the other hand, the Nvidia drivers have been tuned for Doom's primary light/surface interaction fragment program, and innocuous code changes can "fall off the fast path" and cause significant performance impacts, especially on NV30 class cards.

    A note on overclocking: it is very likely that overclocked configurations that "play everything else perfectly" will start to show problems on D3 due to new usage patterns. Everyone is of course free to do whatever they want with their own hardware, but don't complain to us..."

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    Both Nvidia and ATI are comparable.

    ATI's recent cards are probably better suited for gaming. The 6800 from nvidia and ATI's x800 are their two top runners, but the current prices are too inflated on both IMO.

    I think a 9800 will appease the hardcore gamer, although slightly more expensive.

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